Assalamualaikum wr.wb

tiga ciduk wrote:

Pak Fay wrote:

tiga ciduk wrote:

tak pelajari dulu, thinking mode on

SILAHKAN THINKING MODE ON ,CIDUK

kasih tips dan trik dong mas, langkah2 biar gampang ngapalin past tense, past perfect, present dan bla bla bla

coba kamu nulis apa aja dalam bahasa inggris satu paragraph ato berapa kalimat aja. ceritakan masa lalu ato rencana dimasa depan. nanti aku koreksine...

gitu ya ciduk bikin pokoknya berapa kalimat aja in English .ga kudu yang keren tapi bombastis dan your own writing.ga boleh kopi paste

well okie let me try:D:D

hello all my name sigid, my full name is sigied himawan but u can call me three dipper:) i was born in palu, central sulawesi about 25 years ago...........................(loading)..................................and im just nobody, like another people...........oke thats all

tiga ciduk wrote:

well okie let me try:D:D

hello all my name sigid, my full name is sigied himawan but u can call me three dipper:) i was born in palu, central sulawesi about 25 years ago...........................(loading)..................................and im just nobody, like another people...........oke thats all

a good work ,ciduk..
let me give any revisions

hello Guys/all of U my name is sigid, my full name is sigied himawan but u can call me three dipper:) i was born in palu, central sulawesi . I'm about 25 years old ................................(loading)..................................and I'm just nobody, I wanna be like other people...........OK> that's all of my saying

hello ,Guys
my name is sigid,
my full name is sigied himawan but u can call me three dipper:)
i was born in palu, central sulawesi .
I'm about 25 years old ................................
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speaking frankly, I'm just nobody, I wanna be like other people...........
OK> that's all of my words

piye ciduk wis apik durung?

pengunaan does mas:) sama among dan between

penggunaan does sebagai kata kerja bantu untuk subyek he , she dan it.
misal kalo kalimat negatip
He doesn't know this problem
she doesn't like him
ato kalimat tanya
does he live here?
does she like him?

yen among karo between beda lagi itu kata sambung . betweeen diantara 2 hal .among lebih dari 2

contone
between pak fay and tiga ciduk
among pak fay, tiga ciduk and rufaydah reeta there is a strong tie of friendship

untuk does jika di ganti nama bisa kan mas misal sigid does not know

tiga ciduk wrote:

untuk does jika di ganti nama bisa kan mas misal sigid does not know

iya bisa. SIGID DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO BE A GOOD LINUXER
ini cuma conto lo ,Gid...
bisa disingkat SIGID DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT

HABIS kata KNOW baiknya dikasih obyek pelengkap penderita. khan kata KNOW itu bersifat transitif alias butuh obyek

Pak Fay wrote:

tiga ciduk wrote:

untuk does jika di ganti nama bisa kan mas misal sigid does not know

iya bisa. SIGID DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO BE A GOOD LINUXER
ini cuma conto lo ,Gid...
bisa disingkat SIGID DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT

[b]MANTAP[/bquestion again kata kerja bentuk pertama, kedua ketiga itu maksudnya sebernya gimana
misal

i see you verb 1

i saw you verb 2 (dia telah melihat) dan sebagainya dan sebagainya

tiga ciduk wrote:

Pak Fay wrote:

tiga ciduk wrote:

untuk does jika di ganti nama bisa kan mas misal sigid does not know

iya bisa. SIGID DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO BE A GOOD LINUXER
ini cuma conto lo ,Gid...
bisa disingkat SIGID DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT

MANTAPquestion again kata kerja bentuk pertama, kedua ketiga itu maksudnya sebernya gimana
misal

i see you verb 1

i saw you verb 2 (dia telah melihat) dan sebagainya dan sebagainya

bentuk pertama untuk simple present menunjukkan aktifitas yang udah biasa dijalanin/habitual action misalnya mr.fay reads a book
every night. jadi tiap malam mr.fay baca buku
atau universal truth contoh the sun rises on the east every morning kecuali kiamat datang nanti muncul dari barat

bentuk kedua untuk simple past/bentuk lampau. misalnya tiga ciduk went to jakarta yesterday.
nah kalo yang ini bentuk yang tidak tentu. dari kata go jadi went jadi Gone.
bentuk satu =go=simple present=waktu sekarang
bentuk dua=went=past tense=bentuk lampau
bentuk tiga=gone=perfect=bentuk lampau yang menunjukkan sesuatu yang telah dikerjakan
misalnya She's gone=SHE HAS GONE=Dia (perempuan)telah pergi

kalo bentuk ketiga ini agak rumit.
ciduk belajar bentuk satu dan dua dulu aja..
trus ngapalke yang regular dan irregular
yang regular paling gampang bentuk dua tiga tinggal ditambah -ed
misale
work-worked-worked
talk-talked-talked
look-looked-looked

yang irregular misale
sleep-slept-slept
do-did-done
go-went-gone
cut-cut-cut
tear-tore-torn
forget-forgot-forgotten
http://www.englishclub.com/vocabulary/irregular-verbs-list.htm
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/irregular-verbs/
http://www.englishpage.com/irregularverbs/irregularverbs.html

aww my head is so hurt:)

thanks infonya most apreciate kadang bahasa2 inggris yg memiliki 2 arti kayak ini nih still make me confused. like this apa beda "within" dan "inside" artinya kan sama2 dalam, kapan digunakan nya?

tiga ciduk wrote:

thanks infonya most apreciate kadang bahasa2 inggris yg memiliki 2 arti kayak ini nih still make me confused. like this apa beda "within" dan "inside" artinya kan sama2 dalam, kapan digunakan nya?

sementara ini liat arti di kamus dulu ya mas salatiga ciduk
Penjelasan dari within di Web dalam bahasa Inggris:

* inside: on the inside; "inside, the car is a mess"
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
within itu menunjukkan konsep ruang....

* Indicates spatial enclosure or containment; Indicates figurative inclusion within the scope of; Before the specified duration ends
http:// en.wiktionary.org/wiki/within

Penjelasan dari inside di Web dalam bahasa Inggris:

* within a building; "in winter we play inside"
* relating to or being on the side closer to the center or within a defined space; "he reached into his inside jacket pocket"; "inside out"; "an ...
* on the inside; "inside, the car is a mess"
* inwardly: with respect to private feelings; "inwardly, she was raging"
* the region that is inside of something
* confined to an exclusive group; "privy to inner knowledge"; "inside information"; "privileged information"
* at heart: in reality; "she is very kind at heart"
* the inner or enclosed surface of something
* away from the outer edge; "an inner lahne"; "the inside lane"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

kasus menarik
Within/inside

- apa bedanya antara "within the room" dan "inside the room " dan mana yang pas?


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jawaban si Starlight


inside, I think
bukan within karena
within digunakan untuk menunjukkan periode waktu/proses, for a group, etc, like this:
"many pupils have already been making friends within the class"
"The bridge will be finished within a month"


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beri

Inside normanlnya diguanakan untuk menjelaskan posisi atau lokasi sesuatu dan digunakan sebagai lawan dari kata "outside".
misalipun

"They will stay inside today because it is raining."
"This is a nice jacket. It has an inside pocket as well as an outside one."

Within is a little more vague and is used for nonspecific things such as time or space. It is also used in more formal speech.

"When talking about politics, they should stay within the boundaries of the topic."
"I will be there within 1/2 an hour." (More usual, I'll be there in a 1/2 an hour.)
"They have raised a thousand dollars and the goal is within their reach."

http://www.englishforums.com/English/InsideWithin/xxzh/post.htm

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an attempt +Quick Reply 73007 Wed, 09 Feb 05 08:41 AM
I would like to add to what CalifJim said.
When referring to time, “within” and “inside” are not interchangeable:
“You are supposed to complete it within two hours” is correct but
“You are supposed to complete it inside two hours” is not.
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just the truth +Quick Reply 73076 Wed, 09 Feb 05 01:59 PM
This is news to me, aa. BrE uses often in conjunction with time and NaE does too with the usual addition of -->> inside of two hours.
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an attempt +Quick Reply 73205 Thu, 10 Feb 05 07:23 AM
But look, Just The Truth, I've made a Google search and here are the results:
“within two months” – 468 000 hits;
“inside two months” – 344 hits.
“inside of” wasn’t mentioned in the above question – it was about “within vs. inside”.
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CalifJim +Quick Reply 73208 Thu, 10 Feb 05 07:29 AM
Hi, Attempt!

Yes, I agree with you. "inside of" wasn't mentioned. It was about "within" vs. "inside".
That's why I didn't mention "inside of" in my response.
Nevertheless, JT expanded the discussion to include "inside of", so we've got a sort of bonus from his added contribution.

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an attempt +Quick Reply 73223 Thu, 10 Feb 05 08:40 AM
Hello CalifJim.

Maybe my post sounded as if I were trying to “restrict” Just The Truth with the boundaries of “within vs. inside” discussion – Good Gracious, no, of course I didn’t mean that. If my post can be read this way, I am sorry for that; it’s just a qui pro quo and what I meant was quite different.

Maybe I ought to be more detailed in my post but I just thought – my point is quite clear as it is if one reads the whole thread in a row. Perhaps you didn’t?
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just the truth +Quick Reply 73225 Thu, 10 Feb 05 09:06 AM

But look, Just The Truth, I've made a Google search and here are the results:
“within two months” – 468 000 hits;
“inside two months” – 344 hits.
“inside of” wasn’t mentioned in the above question – it was about “within vs. inside”.



I appreciate that the original query didn't have 'inside of', AA. However my response noted that, "BrE uses often in conjunction with time".

This was from The Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English.

TIME a) in less than a particular amount of time.

A full report is expected inside three months.

inside the hour/month etc We'll be back inside the hour.

[+ of] especially AmE.

In the interests of fairness and accuracy, "often" should not have been added for 'within' is clearly preferred for both BrE and NaE.

aww so hard to digest ...... ya gampang penggunaan "be"

gampange ngene ae ciduk
inside untuk konsep ruang.
the transformers go inside the building

within untuk konsep waktu
I stay in this city within 3 months

ngono wae yooo

mantap :)yg little mudeng ,ma little confuse neh, oh iya mas

kapan kita tidak boleh menggunakan "be"

tiga ciduk wrote:

mantap :)yg little mudeng ,ma little confuse neh, oh iya mas

kapan kita tidak boleh menggunakan "be"

maksudnya be yang ini
bentuk sekarang /present tense: is, am , are
lampau/past: was dan were
perfect/telah dikerjakan: been
ini penggunaan untuk kalimat nominal. artinya kalimat yang ga pake kata kerja asli seperti: go, work, look, observe etc..
misalnya TIGA CIDUK IS A DIGITAL ARTIST
I AM JUST A LITTLE BOY
WE ARE THE MEMBERS OF RUDALNATION